How can you say Nethserver is rubbish, when it doesn't appear as if you've tried it? I run a website as well as a Nextcloud server for my business on an NS box. It has worked good from the get-go. I have extensive experience over the years with COS. I've got nearly a year of experience with Nethserver. While I would rather not have abandoned COS, NS has been a great alternative. Why would I support a project (i.e., COS) whose founders look to have abandoned it (all signs pointing to it anyway)? I was a paid business subscriber and feel put out.