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VLANS
Brrrrr,
What an annoying piece of forum software this is...
It is built by people who don't know what intuitive is.
Probably made by the same people who made the modern ClearOS web interface, still search myself silly to find stuf.
I still long to say back to the Clarkconnect interface.
Hi Nick, I'm not a new forum user, I started just after version 1 of Clarckconnect.
But something went wrong with my data, so I signed up again.
That I asked my question twice, is because of the bad forum software.
I pressed the "send" button and it took at least 10 seconds before I got a response.
I'm behind four big screens here and if the reaction takes so long, your eyes will automatically go to one of the other four screens, because i have more work to do.
And I thought I already saw something from the corner of my eye, so that was the short message that the first question is always judged first.
But just leave that message on the screen and show it immediately afther pushing te send button, and not after 10 seconds.
In case you think I have a slow Internet connection, it is 400mBit down and 40MmBit, up fast enough for a forum topic?
Creating forum topics on EEVBLOG is no problem at all also on a American Server.
And now to the last about this forum and ClearOS website, why all the tracking that happens there.
14 items I see in NoScript, 7 trackers and uBlock reports 11 items...
Why so data greedy? YES I like my privacy.
But let's go back to network problem :-)
Thanks for al the work!
I have already solved a part based on your comment, I have now made a "Hot" LAN for one of the VLANs.
And of course I ran into a bug that this didn't work, removed this VLAN and then created it again and when I created it I immediately chose for a HOT LAN and that worked.
For now this is enough, with this I can isolate the IP segment for media equipment sufficiently in their VLAN.
It is so practical, if you can use a matrix in the ClearOS web interface to specify which LAN or VLAN can exchange data with each other.
I find it strange that this is still not built into ClearOS, why else would you use VLAN or separate IP segments if they can all talk to each other by default.
For now, I am not going to modify Server network scripts in a production Server.
I will set ClearOS as a virtual machine to test with the modifications you proposed.
And I would like to thank you once again for your commitment!
Kind regards,
Bram
PS
This is so bad!!!!
If I want to answer Nick's post there is no "Submit" button!
What a bad forum software this is, there are no words for it.
So for this text above I have created a new topic moten to give my answer to Nick, how stupid is this.
What an annoying piece of forum software this is...
It is built by people who don't know what intuitive is.
Probably made by the same people who made the modern ClearOS web interface, still search myself silly to find stuf.
I still long to say back to the Clarkconnect interface.
Hi Nick, I'm not a new forum user, I started just after version 1 of Clarckconnect.
But something went wrong with my data, so I signed up again.
That I asked my question twice, is because of the bad forum software.
I pressed the "send" button and it took at least 10 seconds before I got a response.
I'm behind four big screens here and if the reaction takes so long, your eyes will automatically go to one of the other four screens, because i have more work to do.
And I thought I already saw something from the corner of my eye, so that was the short message that the first question is always judged first.
But just leave that message on the screen and show it immediately afther pushing te send button, and not after 10 seconds.
In case you think I have a slow Internet connection, it is 400mBit down and 40MmBit, up fast enough for a forum topic?
Creating forum topics on EEVBLOG is no problem at all also on a American Server.
And now to the last about this forum and ClearOS website, why all the tracking that happens there.
14 items I see in NoScript, 7 trackers and uBlock reports 11 items...
Why so data greedy? YES I like my privacy.
But let's go back to network problem :-)
Thanks for al the work!
I have already solved a part based on your comment, I have now made a "Hot" LAN for one of the VLANs.
And of course I ran into a bug that this didn't work, removed this VLAN and then created it again and when I created it I immediately chose for a HOT LAN and that worked.
For now this is enough, with this I can isolate the IP segment for media equipment sufficiently in their VLAN.
It is so practical, if you can use a matrix in the ClearOS web interface to specify which LAN or VLAN can exchange data with each other.
I find it strange that this is still not built into ClearOS, why else would you use VLAN or separate IP segments if they can all talk to each other by default.
For now, I am not going to modify Server network scripts in a production Server.
I will set ClearOS as a virtual machine to test with the modifications you proposed.
And I would like to thank you once again for your commitment!
Kind regards,
Bram
PS
This is so bad!!!!
If I want to answer Nick's post there is no "Submit" button!
What a bad forum software this is, there are no words for it.
So for this text above I have created a new topic moten to give my answer to Nick, how stupid is this.
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There is some good news. Clearcenter are looking to move over to the Discourse type of forum. As an example, see the OSMC Forums. Timescale is as yet unknown.
Re VLANS/LAN's, it has been suggested by the devs that the default change from all LAN's and VLAN's being able to talk to each other, to all LAN's and VLAN's being isolated from each other. It does leave some issues. Currently LAN's are allowed to talk to HotLAN's and not vice-versa, so that would have to be thought about. This sort of change can't be made mid-release as it could break too many systems so would have to wait to 8.x.
Re VLANS/LAN's, it has been suggested by the devs that the default change from all LAN's and VLAN's being able to talk to each other, to all LAN's and VLAN's being isolated from each other. It does leave some issues. Currently LAN's are allowed to talk to HotLAN's and not vice-versa, so that would have to be thought about. This sort of change can't be made mid-release as it could break too many systems so would have to wait to 8.x.
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Thanks Nick - spent a little time looking at https://discourse.osmc.tv/. Streets ahead of what we have here and fantastic response time. Hope Clear can achieve the same if they go with this software... The discussion here was also interesting when another site moved over to this same discourse software and started using it... -
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Nick Howitt wrote:
There is some good news. Clearcenter are looking to move over to the Discourse type of forum. As an example, see the OSMC Forums. Timescale is as yet unknown.
Good news!
Re VLANS/LAN's, it has been suggested by the devs that the default change from all LAN's and VLAN's being able to talk to each other, to all LAN's and VLAN's being isolated from each other. It does leave some issues. Currently LAN's are allowed to talk to HotLAN's and not vice-versa, so that would have to be thought about. This sort of change can't be made mid-release as it could break too many systems so would have to wait to 8.x.
Never used VLAN's, but very interesting to experiment a bit with it! -
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re. forums - don't hold your breath - Read this append - over 8 1/2 years later we are still waiting for the "huge improvement"
As you may have now discovered the "Reply" button to submit your response is way way below the "Your Replay" panel where you type your response and isn't seen in many cases unless you scroll down looking for it. Would have been better placed much closer, for example on the same line as the emoticons and other reply aids. A typical example of the awful design of this web-site - 'What were they thinking'
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