Hey guys.
One of the companys i look after is in the proccess of moving to a new building and i would like to get them setup with a new server, two infact (if possible) The company will have 2 lines and a wifi redundency line. In the future, they would like to get more lines in the bigger they get (which is growing at a rappid pace)
Here is what i would like to know and would like to setup (if poissble)
SERVER #1
INTERNET: Main line that comes in, 5x static ip addresses we can use.
LAN #1: 192.168.1.0
LAN#2: 192.168.2.0
INTERNET #2 & REDUNDANCY: Attached router with a wifi internet dongle (Router also supports an ADSL line too)
SERVER #2
INTERNET #3: Router with ADSL Line.
INTERNET #4: Router with ADSL Line.
INTERNET #5: Router with ADSL Line.
INTERNET #6: Router with ADSL Line.
SERVER #2 will be used for more internet lines the company brings in. ALL of the extra lines coming in will only be used for users on SERVER #1 - LAN #1:. The lines will then be designated to ip addresses as which line to use.
i.e)
192.168.1.5 will only use INTERNET #3:
192.168.1.6 will only use INTERNET #4:
192.168.1.7 will only use INTERNET #5:
192.168.1.8 will only use INTERNET #6:
I might have not explained it the best, but i hope you guys can make out what i would like to do with the ClearOS servers.
If i need to buy the professional edition or what have you, so be it, just as long as i have the option to do this
Hope to hear from you guys soon!
One of the companys i look after is in the proccess of moving to a new building and i would like to get them setup with a new server, two infact (if possible) The company will have 2 lines and a wifi redundency line. In the future, they would like to get more lines in the bigger they get (which is growing at a rappid pace)
Here is what i would like to know and would like to setup (if poissble)
--------------- ---------------
| SERVER #1 #-----------------# SERVER #2 |
| 1 2 3 4 | | 1 2 3 4 |
--------------- ---------------
| | | | | | | |INTERNET #6
| | | | | | |
INTERNET | | | | | |INTERNET #5
| | | | |
LAN #1 | | | |INTERNET #4
| | |
LAN #2 | |INTERNET #3
|
INTERNET #2 & REDUNDANCYSERVER #1
INTERNET: Main line that comes in, 5x static ip addresses we can use.
LAN #1: 192.168.1.0
LAN#2: 192.168.2.0
INTERNET #2 & REDUNDANCY: Attached router with a wifi internet dongle (Router also supports an ADSL line too)
SERVER #2
INTERNET #3: Router with ADSL Line.
INTERNET #4: Router with ADSL Line.
INTERNET #5: Router with ADSL Line.
INTERNET #6: Router with ADSL Line.
SERVER #2 will be used for more internet lines the company brings in. ALL of the extra lines coming in will only be used for users on SERVER #1 - LAN #1:. The lines will then be designated to ip addresses as which line to use.
i.e)
192.168.1.5 will only use INTERNET #3:
192.168.1.6 will only use INTERNET #4:
192.168.1.7 will only use INTERNET #5:
192.168.1.8 will only use INTERNET #6:
I might have not explained it the best, but i hope you guys can make out what i would like to do with the ClearOS servers.
If i need to buy the professional edition or what have you, so be it, just as long as i have the option to do this
Hope to hear from you guys soon!
In Multiwan
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Peter Baldwin wrote:
2) It sounds like you want to isolate LAN #1 and LAN #2 quite a bit. If so, I would be tempted to put LAN #1 on Server #1 with 6 or 8 network cards, and LAN #2 on Server #2 with 4-ish network cards (though 6 or 8 might be good just to keep things identical and ready as a hot spare). You don't have to do this right off the bat -- you can reconfigure the network when those extra lines are needed. The source-based routes should be able to handle the rest of the requirements. You may need help from support to help with routing a whole network (LAN #2 to use only Internet #1 or #2). If the web-based interface can't handle it, then a custom firewall rule certainly can.
Thanks for the reply Peter!
Thats quite a bit of network cards in one pc :woohoo: Problem is, the company isnt going to fork out hundreds/thousands for a server board with enough slots to handle that. (I've given them this proposal before)
Best board i can find, is one with 3 PCI slots for 3 cards and then 1 which is the onboard one :/
As i said though, if i need to buy Pro edition, that should not be a problem since its decently priced per year. (If this would be a solution ofc)
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Hello t1ck3ts,
I know this will sound like a "sales pitch", but I would never ever ever recommend the Community Edition for such an environment. You are going to see more and more bleeding edge changes coming through the Community Edition software updates system as we approach ClearOS 7. Of course we do our best to keep the free Community Edition stable, but you don't catch all the edge cases without a solid round of field testing. We have been bitten a couple of times over the last few months by software updates, so we're going to boost the verified updates system for the Professional Edition (it's a semi-manual process right now... too slow). Downtime is expensive for the end customer!
Back to the question at hand.
1) Server #1 is a fairly standard scenario that we see deployed. There's a command line switch to change "INTERNET #2 & REDUNDANCY" into a backup-only connection (i.e. it will only activate when Internet #1 is down). ClearCenter support can help with that change.
2) It sounds like you want to isolate LAN #1 and LAN #2 quite a bit. If so, I would be tempted to put LAN #1 on Server #1 with 6 or 8 network cards, and LAN #2 on Server #2 with 4-ish network cards (though 6 or 8 might be good just to keep things identical and ready as a hot spare). You don't have to do this right off the bat -- you can reconfigure the network when those extra lines are needed. The source-based routes should be able to handle the rest of the requirements. You may need help from support to help with routing a whole network (LAN #2 to use only Internet #1 or #2). If the web-based interface can't handle it, then a custom firewall rule certainly can. -
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I'm not briliant at this type of question, but I think you are proposing a very advanced installation which is beyond the normal capabilities of the free version of ClearOS.
For internet #1 & #2 to work you would want Server #1 to be a gateway device and I think failover should work (but I am not sure how good ClearOS is at reverting once the main connection is restored). I *think* you'd need a LAN-LAN connection between servers #1 and #2. Then you could set up say 192.168.1.5 (probably at the PC level or by manually configuring the DHCP server) to use server #2 as a gateway but you'll need a bit of jiggery-pokery to route each LAN device out of the correct WAN (MultiWAN may support source based routing but I'm not sure). I don't see how any of your LAN devices will fail over if they lose their hard-coded WAN's.
I think you need someone more competent than me to answer this! Perhaps a sales enquiry to ClearCenter?
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